Saturday, February 25, 2012

McBible

*warning: potentially offensive content.  it's not a bash on religion or the bible, and it's not particularly profane, but this subject is not happy.

Hurray, another opinion piece!  It's really super long; sorry.  The next big thing will take some time to research, but I'm still posting opinions in between.  Tonight's little thing is too long to fit into the title bar, so I'll have to put it here:

"Would You Like Fries with That?"
God, His Son, and the Ones Who Claim to Know Him

It's not that I actually dislike religion.  Sure, I'm an atheist, but...well.  Atheism, to me, is a lack of belief in God.  It's not hatred for God.  I did go through a period during which I raged against an institution that betrayed me utterly, but I got that out years ago.  I'm left with the quiet realization that the idea of God is not the sum of its parts; it's the creator of those parts, and I can forget the jerks who happen to get together in a building every Sunday to teach and nurture a creation myth.  It's not their fault for wanting to believe in something greater than themselves, but it is their fault for using that belief, twisting it, and hurting others.  Knowing that I am better than the ones who hurt me makes it easier to separate the Idea from the Ideal.

And that's what religion is -- or at least, that's what I've been led to believe.  Religion is a cultural movement made up of a number of people striving toward, worshiping, or otherwise interacting with an Ideal.  As long as they're not hurting anyone, I can't fault them for that.

No, I don't dislike religion.  What I dislike is those who would use religion to hurt or oppress others.  Go worship in your churches, your temples, your mosques, your synagogues, your whatever.  Dance around a fire or pray or play music or whatever it is you do to honor your Ideal.  I honestly could not care less.

But.  But.

But here's the thing.  People do use it.  In the black and white terms of Christianity -- which I'll be addressing here, obviously, because it's the Bible and because so far we don't have a whole lot of, say, Wiccans vying for the top spot -- they use it for evil.  What happened to not committing adultery or bearing false witness against thy neighbor?  What about not coveting?  These things -- you know, three of the ten commandments -- are obviously not as important as things like whether homosexuals can serve in the military or that our President's secretly a Muslim born in...wherever.  These are the people who make the McBible.

What is the McBible?

Most people don't know what they're talking about when they talk about their own religion.  They might cite easy passages, or if they're really daring they'll eff up the story of Sodom and Gomorrah or something, but have they really studied what they're saying?  Chances are they haven't.  Preachers hand it to them in sermons.  Friends hand it to them in snotty conversation.  Politicians hand it to them in the form of legislature.  They can get it anywhere for cheap, but it's not the real thing.

Okay.  Some examples.

As it's obviously an issue that affects me personally, I'm going to first address the issue of homosexuality.  Here are the "condemning" parts of the Bible no politician has bothered to quote (most likely because they've never bothered to study for their own arguments, but hey, don't cite me or anything):

1) The story of Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis 19

The King James Version of Gen 19

Here are the verses I think are most relevant:

6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
7 and said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

So, Lot pleads with them to go away and they don't.  Why?  Because this dude comes along, proceeds to point the finger and call them all assholes, and then hides behind Lot when they come after him.  Surprise surprise, mob mentality kicked in and they tried to trample Lot.  (Note that "know" has many different meanings throughout the Bible, and even if this one did mean "know" in a sexual way, it would mean that the aforementioned assholes wanted to demean him -- rape him.  This is not homosexuality, this is aggression and punishment and humiliation.  Yeah, I'd probably burn them too.)  But to be honest, Lot's no better.  He threw his virgin daughters to the wolves.

Romans 1:26-27

26 ¶ For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.



Note: God gave them up unto vile affections.  As in, either he threw in the towel -- which wouldn't have happened; he'd have just killed them, as usual -- or he caused this.  Despite all that is wrong with continuity here and the dubious credibility of Paul (go have a whack at Paul sometime, I dare you), homosexuality is apparently God-given.  We're born hated by God.  Lucky us.  Either we did something terrible in a past life, or...oh wait.  Christians don't believe in reincarnation.  Yeah, God just hates us.  I can see why any politician worth his salt won't touch this one with a ten-foot pole.

Leviticus 18:22

           22  Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

I'd like to point out here that correctly translated, it's condemning pedophilia.  The second word there should be related to boy, not mankind.

Leviticus 20:13

           13  If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Again, boy here.  Either someone made a mistake (unlikely) or they did it on purpose, as with the witch thing (much more likely).  Also, on the subject of Leviticus, we mustn't forget the other abominations, like shellfish.  Keep his statutes: you can't have a garden, and that cute little patch you want so you can cover the hole in your blue jeans?  Forget it.  Also, God thinks that insects have four legs.  Just a thought.

1 Corinthians 6:9

 9  ¶ Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Fornication means sex, doesn't it?  In the Biblical sense I'm pretty sure that it refers to premarital sex.  Idolators is pretty self-explanatory.  Adulterers...yeah.  Abusers of themselves with mankind...not so sure of that one, but I sort of get a 'euthanasia' feel from it.  Effeminate?  Darn, Heath Ledger didn't get to go to heaven.  He was my favorite, too...so cute in A Knight's Tale.  But maybe his performance as the Joker helped.  Blood, fire, chaos?  Totally up the Old Testament's alley.  ...Wait.  Where's the part about homosexuality?

1 Timothy 1:9-10

9 knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10 for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

So, jerks who swear and do other godless stuff, murderers of parents (but apparently not of children), manslayers (insert one of a number of jokes about Buffy and her unfortunate love life), pimps, their hos, pretty faces who steal husbands, liars, and people who lie in court.  I'm not going to comment on the sexist undertones here, because this is par for the course.  I'm still not seeing where homosexuality fits in.  For them that defile... maybe, but I honestly got whores from that.  Not homosexuals.

Conclusion:

Haters gonna hate.  Politicians gonna pander.  It's unfortunate that they use "God" to defend their positions, when all they have from any of those passages is "Well, you're gay because God hates you, and that means I get to hate you too."  But what politician would ever say that?

I'm now going to quote Jesus for a little while.  He's a pretty cool guy.  I'd totally friend him on Facebook, even though we'd never hang out.  Out of everyone in the entire Bible, he's the only one I can stand.  So let's hear it from the original hippie himself:

From Matthew:

12  Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: Lk. 6.31 for this is the law and the prophets.

15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Mt. 3.10 · Lk. 3.9
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mt. 12.33

 Luke 10:25-37

25 ¶ And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said,
        
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God
with all thy heart, and with all thy soul,
and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; Deut. 6.5
and thy neighbor as thyself. Lev. 19.18
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. Lev. 18.5 Mt. 22.35-40 · Mk. 12.28-34
29 ¶ But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbor?
30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way; and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was; and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
34 and went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him: and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbor unto him that fell among the thieves?
37 And he said, He that showed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.





Jesus said to love thy neighbor, not to use the Old Testament to justify your hatred and oppression.  It's actually kind of sad, when you think about it, to see Christ so perverted by the very people who claim to worship him.  (Dude.  It's not Godianity; it's Christianity.  You'd think it'd be all about love and peace and healing and helping others, but apparently that's too old-fashioned for these people.  Or something.)




Look, I understand that politicians say half the crap they do because they want to connect with their target audience.  I get that although a person's favorite book might define their actions, their understanding might be a little effed up.  But if you're into Christianity, you can't justify hatred.  You can't justify persecution.

7  So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

(Jesus said this while doodling on the ground in front of angry politicians.  I kind of want someone to do this and see how many people get the reference.)

 One more McBible for the Hungry Masses
(sorry, I don't have magic bread or fish or wine)

Santorum.  Oh, I love to bash him.  I mean, he is basically a nutjob with a creepy smile, but the problem is, he's in the running for a position of authority.  He's anti-America, anti-equality, sexist, and pushing for a theocracy.

"Our civil laws have to comport with the higher law."

Religious or not, tell me how that's American.  Tell me why I, as an atheist -- or Jen, as a Wiccan...or Chrystal, as a Buddhist -- must answer to the Judeo-Christian God.  Why must I comply with his Ideal?  I shouldn't have to.  I won't give a history lesson here, because this is already so long, but there is a separation of church and state for a reason.  Our founding fathers set it up this way; isn't that good enough?  Apparently not for Santorum; he isn't a conservative.  He's suggesting big government.  He's suggesting throwing out our structure just because he believes he must be the authority on What is Right for You.

Santorum doesn't just give you the McBible.  He wants to force it down your throat and hold your nose until you either swallow or die. 

Grr.  But the biggest smaller irritation (which means it's smaller than the gut-wrenching fear I feel every time I hear 'President' and 'Santorum' in the same sentence, but it's still pretty huge), right now at least, is his assertion that all babies are gifts from God, regardless of where they came from.  I'll leave off after this, but seriously?  Rape babies are gifts from God?

Genesis 3:16

"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

Yeah.  Because Eve wasn't punished enough, being saddled with a lying, finger-pointing husband dictating her life and intense pain for nine-plus months (and let's not even mention the delivery).  Now she has to go through the pain and anguish if some other jackass decides she's a free screw.  Um, no.  I've read the Bible three times, and I'm pretty sure Genesis has no such addendum.

Further reading: The Bible; The Constitution

5 comments:

  1. Couple things to think about. good comparisons overall. However, 'mankind' does not correctly translate to 'boy', but more to 'same sex'. For example, in your quote of Leviticus 20:13, if that did mean boy, then it is saying a child (who really is being raped, there is no 'choice' for them) is also an abomination. 'Same Sex' fits there much better.

    Secondly, your quote of Romans 1-26:27 and "God gave them up unto vile affections". I do not believe this means God threw in the towel, but rather, he gave them choices and they refused, so he said 'so be it, you have made your decision, so here are the consequences'. He also didn't cause it, because life is about free choice. Satan's plan was to take away choice, making everyone be perfect. God's was more about putting tests in front of us, and giving us the choice of what to do with them.

    Your overall theme of religion not being in politics though, that I agree with. This country was founded on the ideas of worshipping how we choose, and less government, not more.

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    1. Thanks for your comment! Any opinion, differing or otherwise, is totally appreciated here. I'd like to address your objections (as a discussion, though you don't have to continue if you don't want to).

      I may have come across some incorrect information -- information spreads, regardless of correctness, so it's definitely possible that I'm wrong about Leviticus -- but I'd like to point out that in the Bible, women have been punished for being raped. (Deut. 22:28-29 states that a woman has to marry her rapist; the problem here is that she has to spend the rest of her life with the man who assaulted her physically, psychologically, and sexually, because nobody else would want to marry such an unclean abomination...of course, this is only if the rapist is caught, in which case the woman is an unclean abomination without a husband.) It's not completely out there to say that the boy who is raped would also be an abomination. You may be correct in that it means 'same sex,' but we have to think of Biblical history and context before modern context.

      About Romans, I do have some trouble with understanding the language of the Bible sometimes. There's a lot of flowery stuff that would make more sense if I lived a gajillion years ago. And assuming that Romans is valid, you're right. God didn't throw in the towel; every time he does that, he just kills them all. I might agree with you about your assertion, but as I'm a woman attracted to women, I know for a fact that homosexuality is *not* a choice. "Hey, I know! I'm gonna choose to live a life of persecution, bullying, being misunderstood and misrepresented, being afraid of even the people who say they love me -- 'if they find out, they might hate me, because they're religious' -- and say they accept me, and discrimination by my own community and government!" It's not exactly my cup of tea. I may not get weepy when people hate me, but that doesn't mean I like being hated.

      Are you someone that I know, or did you just find this blog? Either one is cool, but if you are someone I already know, who are you?

      Again, thanks for your comments. Any more thoughts? I'd love to hear them, if you're up for a discussion.

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    2. I cannot keep up with your speed at which you write these posts. I probably will only be able to comment once in a while however I am reading them.

      This one is just so full of possibilities here for comment but I would rather discuss them with you in person. Maybe in March.

      Just one thought though.....you can't say a 'religion' is wrong or that the doctrine is wrong just because the people are human and suck. Just as I cannot say that Muslims are willing to kill themselves for their faith just because a few or even more than a few nut jobs have. That doesn't make their beliefs wrong. Just those individuals.

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    3. Hi. First, in response to your quote from Deut, I believe you misunderstood. In verse 25, it speaks of a man 'force'ing a woman, and says that he shall die. In verse 26, it says she has done nothing wrong. In verse 28, it is speaking of two people who are both consenting. It does not say force, which would have been the correct term to use for that.

      So in the same sense as in verse 26, where the woman is forced, but is innocent, so is the boy in Leviticus. I believe my opinion is still valid.

      As to Romans, and the rest, I did not say that something like your attraction to other women is a choice. I said that God gives us tests, and lets us choose. Perhaps (in this context), your test is whether or not to act on your feelings of attraction. You may not choose who you are attracted to, but you do have the choice to act upon those feelings...or not. I believe that this is also really what more conservative churches try to practice as well. It is not the condemning of the attraction, but the condemning of the choice to act upon it. Keep in mind, there is a difference between what any 'Church' tries to teach...versus the thousands or millions of 'People' who are members in that Church and how they personally feel or react.

      Let me give you another example. Let's use something that doesn't hit so close to home with you. Let's say you are a male, and you are married to a woman, and you are a horn dog. You want to be with every woman you see. Is there anything wrong with that? Or does the 'wrongness' come from making a choice to act on those attractions? Is it a sin, or a crime, to be attracted to others than your spouse? I would say no. Is it a sin, or a crime, to indulge those attractions by committing adultery? Yes to sin, and in some places, Yes to a crime as well.

      I don't know if that helps you see the distinction I am making, or how I believe a lot of 'Churches' intend to make it, but I hope so. Really, it is the homophobia (in this case) of individuals that make it seem as though it is Religion at fault. Truly, I don't think that is the case. I don't think God hates 'Gays'. I think He is disappointed in the actions we sometimes make that are not what He would have us choose. There are two terms you may hear in connection to the Bible. "God is a Just God" and "God is a Loving God". The "Just God" is more of the Old Testament, while the "Loving God" is more of the New Testament. Those phrases can seem (to us) to contradict one another, but I think that is just Humankind's lack of comprehension. I promise you, God has not given up on you. He is just waiting for you. And His patience is endless, so when you are ready, He will be there. For the masses, you just have to ignore them.

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    4. When using these verses I was trying to make a point about politics and politicians. It was about people who wield their religion like a weapon; they often don't actually study what they're saying, and it makes them look stupid, but people buy into it. That's what annoys me, not belief in God. I know that in Deuteronomy it says that the woman is innocent, but the punishment is that nobody else will marry her because she is unclean. It isn't her fault, but somehow because she was raped, she's unfit for marriage. Back then, marriage was a woman's protection and security because women were not equal to men, like they are today in the US; it was devastating to be unfit for marriage. The Bible has a history of using 'abomination' in places it really shouldn't be used; again, I'm not saying you're wrong, but reading the Bible is a little like playing Telephone.

      I guess since I'm not religious, the distinction is not there. Of course I make a choice in everything I do, but in a Christian context if I make a choice to follow my heart, I'm an abomination and if I make a choice to do what the Bible says, I'm going to be lonely and sad for the rest of my life. Well, okay, lonely and sad doesn't realy apply to me, because I'm very solitary, but it applies to most people and if I find someone, I'm not going to shy away from her. I think what straight people don't necessarily understand is that gay people have just as much yearning for love and companionship. I'm sure there are gays who have purely sexual relationships, just like straight people, but for mostly everybody regardless of orientation, relationships are about affection and love. By restricting homosexuals like this, basically the Bible is saying that we're not worthy of love. I can't get behind that. I can never get behind that. And to be honest, I don't understand why anyone *could* get behind that. I may not like or understand people in general, but I would *never* tell someone they aren't worthy of love. Even my worst enemy would never hear that from me.

      "Just God's" solution to human problems was "Just get rid of them." And apparently this "loving God" only loves people who fit a certain mold. Humans wrote the Bible, not God. Humans tell us the Bible is true. Has God appeared to church leaders and said that the Bible is true? It's been changed by kings and others to fit their own ideas.

      On a very personal note, if God existed, we would have no hope. The world is sick; religion has been corrupted and used as a weapon. People do things in his name that probably have Jesus crying still. And what does God do? Nothing. "Warm feelings" aren't enough to heal the world. If I were a parent and my child begged me for help, I'd help them. So either God is a deadbeat dad, a sadist, or nonexistent. A nonexistent God gives me hope for a better world. That isn't why I don't believe in God; there are a lot of other reasons that came before, and I just came to that conclusion a year ago. When I was baptized, I was nine. I didn't believe in God or the church even when I was eight years old, but after the missionary lessons and pressure from all sides, I caved. That means something.

      My biggest issue was Santorum's rape baby BS; the other stuff was to prove a point about political religion. I don't mind Christianity; I really like Jesus. I don't necessarily believe he lived, but regardless of the historical facts, teaching love and respect and healing is awesome. But Christ has been twisted or altogether ignored by many people and churches. The point was that religion can be good for people, can inspire them to be better people, but politicians use it for "evil." It disgusts me, which is why I wrote about it. I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression.

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